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[GrizzlyLocks]

Definitely looking good.

[xMasterBlasterx]

Come onnnnnnnnnnnn Beta!!

[Wolf22]

I'm happy to hear an update, but that doesn't sound very reassuring. I feel pretty skeptical at this point that they will be able to release it for beta any earlier than this winter. As a manager of application developers, I translate phrases like "It is hard for us to give a timeframe for when we will be ready to begin user testing on a larger scale" to mean "it's not coming any time soon, so stop asking". What do you guys think? Am I too pessimistic?

[Teranika]

Wolf22, on 17 July 2012 - 10:58 AM, said:

I'm happy to hear an update, but that doesn't sound very reassuring. I feel pretty skeptical at this point that they will be able to release it for beta any earlier than this winter. As a manager of application developers, I translate phrases like "It is hard for us to give a timeframe for when we will be ready to begin user testing on a larger scale" to mean "it's not coming any time soon, so stop asking". What do you guys think? Am I too pessimistic?

Honestly? Yes.. I think you are reading a bit too much into it. I deal with software developers all the time at work, and even when they can't give any specific information.. it's not always bad.. sometimes, they're trying to pull a Mr. Scott (Tell them it'll take 40 hours, do it in 4 and be amazing).

[RoundTop]

Teranika: How else will they maintain their reputation as miracle workers?

Besides, we know the real reason for the delay in beta... they are based in Montreal. They are enjoying the "scenery" too much

Honestly, if they hadn't sent that beta e-mail the other month, this would not be an issue. But they did, so people expected a beta soon. Thus lies the problem. "Soon" for some people is a few days or a week. For others (like companies) it can be a couple months.

[Modred189]

Iiiiinnnteresting. This has become unpinned...

Is a new update coming tomorrow before the chat? Shortly after?

[Teranika]

RoundTop, on 17 July 2012 - 01:15 PM, said:

Teranika: How else will they maintain their reputation as miracle workers?

Besides, we know the real reason for the delay in beta... they are based in Montreal. They are enjoying the "scenery" too much

IGP has a little video of Montreal on their site... I didn't see any snow! I thought Canada was always snowed under!

Just kidding.. it actually looked quite pretty, I could see how they'd get distracted on days with nice weather..

But, yeah, I agree about the premature notification initially.. though I think this thread did a good job clarifying the circumstances since then.

[RoundTop]

Teranika, on 17 July 2012 - 08:45 PM, said:

IGP has a little video of Montreal on their site... I didn't see any snow! I thought Canada was always snowed under!

Just kidding.. it actually looked quite pretty, I could see how they'd get distracted on days with nice weather..

But, yeah, I agree about the premature notification initially.. though I think this thread did a good job clarifying the circumstances since then.

Heh. I wasn't talking about the weather or city (although they are both nice). Montreal is known for it....how to say this nicely... beautiful people and clubs where certain people remove items of clothing while dancing.

[Teranika]

RoundTop, on 18 July 2012 - 06:41 AM, said:

Heh. I wasn't talking about the weather or city (although they are both nice). Montreal is known for it....how to say this nicely... beautiful people and clubs where certain people remove items of clothing while dancing.

This is how you know I'm old and married for years now... that type of distraction didn't even occur to me

[RoundTop]

Teranika, on 18 July 2012 - 08:16 AM, said:

This is how you know I'm old and married for years now... that type of distraction didn't even occur to me

I have known people whom that has not stopped. And I'm also a member of the 30-somethings, so I'm not exactly a fresh faced kid anymore.

[Maho]

At the risk of being punished, I would like to say this:


All things aside, I find it to be rather irresponsible to say that beta was coming in a few weeks time back in May when it we are beyond several, and I would be interested in hearing the thought process of that decision.

Thanks.

[Modred189]

Maho, on 19 July 2012 - 12:56 PM, said:

At the risk of being punished, I would like to say this:


All things aside, I find it to be rather irresponsible to say that beta was coming in a few weeks time back in May when it we are beyond several, and I would be interested in hearing the thought process of that decision.

Thanks.

Having re-read the announcement, I think there are two possibilities:
1- (less likely) It was poorly worded. I was supposed to tell us that Friends and FAmily Beta was starting in a few weeks time from then, and then a closed beta would be next.
2- (More likely) CLosed beta brought up some serious issues they had to fix. That kind of thing usually necessitates a re-run of that beta level, so 2 friends and family betas likely occurred, or are occurring still. So they really meant, "Should start in a few weeks if the friends and family beta goes as planned" ...which it never does. lol.

That said, I don't think it's irresponsible, per se. It can only be irresponsible if they have a responsibility, and as of right now, they have none to us at all, so a premature announcement is just a mistake, not irresponsible.

[Bruce]

Year round snow is only a story we Canadians spread to people we don't like

But when it doesn't snow we do have transportation issues. Dog sleds don't move well across concrete.

[randalwaide]

Mechs and naked women? I'm moving to Montreal.

[DevanArmstrong]

There is no good reason other than game issues to slow down Beta. It's not like they are trying to lure people in, then disappoint them with delays. I want to play as much as the next person, however ill be patient, because I know they love this game more than I do, and they are doing their best

[Teranika]

Maho, on 19 July 2012 - 12:56 PM, said:

At the risk of being punished, I would like to say this:


All things aside, I find it to be rather irresponsible to say that beta was coming in a few weeks time back in May when it we are beyond several, and I would be interested in hearing the thought process of that decision.

Thanks.

In addition to what Modred mentioned... Several weeks to a Software Developer, is not the same amount of time that those of us (im)patiently awaiting beta keys would consider several weeks.

Several weeks in Developer speak = More than 2
Several weeks in (im)patiently waiting potential beta tester speak = 2-3 weeks.

This thread was started to give us all an update on the game state AFTER the initial email went out back in May announcing that F&F had started. So it's not like they sent the email, and then haven't communicated further..

[savaze]

I've been a lurker around here, do ya think that means I won't get beta access?

[Teranika]

savaze, on 21 July 2012 - 03:35 AM, said:

I've been a lurker around here, do ya think that means I won't get beta access?

Unknown. The only criteria we know so far for beta selection (when it happens), is that some level of priority will go to people who were on the old site.. after that... it'll probably be random.

[savaze]

From that criteria I'm still in the mix...

[Agesilaus]

That e-mail from a couple of months ago was pretty confusing, so I can definitely understand why people would be annoyed. At any rate, I'm not too concerned; I would like to be part of the beta right now, but either way I'll play it at some point and it will be fun.